Dave
betta stick that loop up high, if u want to work me down here
of all the chaps i know that had a 160m loop ,most took it down within a week
not beacause loops are weak

, but rather not having the high tower we need for TB.
even on 80m i prefer the dipole, now u have been here and u have seen the hight i am using, plus the 12m sheer drop embankment helps to raise the mast by 12m to the south,(where the loop is installed 32m high).
I have tried lower with less success.So to me its also a question of what works for me, and like u say, the testing is part of it.
i liked the inverted L antenna as well and was suprised at what i can hear with it (better that the dipole) but on transmit it was not a contender, the dipole beat it every time on local and dx, that goes for the vertical as well.
In all Honesty i dont think we need low angle radiation on TB

Comparing the dipole and the vertical with 68 radials on TB which is not perfect (i KNOW)
the dipole brought in all the dx, where as the vertical could not work them or hear them.
Based on what i have worked locally and dx wise i am a firm believer in a high dipole for TB.
Now dont let this put you off by all means
Peter 1jx works with verticals and he is satisfied with dx performance.
Alex 1l had a loop 10m to 11m high for a while and went back to the dipoles.
We do not have to believe if we are keen consructors, we test for ourselves
Most often u hear: what worked for him dont work for me.
Antennas are strung up in a less perfect world than we live in, contributing to the fact is the way we install our antennas and how much effort goes into them; for example a perfect radial system with 180 radials will set u back quite a few BOB and will mean 3 days hard work of burying them with a machine, concrete work, etc.. then the need to build a 19.8m high vertical to withstand the elements of nature, and to top that a good match to 50 ohms, capable of high power; along with this the need to hear them, to work them, u need a receiving antenna capable of matching your transmitting capability.
Not a easy task at hand with a 200m by 200m property, and then we live on post stamp size properties with 15m masts,EISH...
We dream of them 100m masts with antennas dangling, and yet "BOB" with his 10m mast and a TH3 is having fun on a 20x20 erven
String it up Dave..string it up.
